This is what happens when you try to subtly impart
knowledge to someone. In the service
business you do not close off sections of your demographic even when you
specialize in other areas. You cannot
make “more” money by excluding customers from your service.
This relationship began with my asking what
contacts she had in the media. Her
response was “contacts are easy to get in the media the hard part is getting
them to do articles. You can look the
contacts up anywhere.” In my opinion a publicist has
contacts that he or she makes available to their client; those contacts do
articles as favors to that publicist. A
publicist rate is determined by the number of contacts they have and the
security of those relationships. I had
my doubts about her qualifications’ from jump.
UNtitled Poet
hello
Misses PrXpert
Hi
How are you?
UNtitled Poet
i am well I see your account is back up and running
Misses PrXpert
yes!
so happy too.
lol
UNtitled Poet
lol
Misses PrXpert
I'm a social networking junkie
UNtitled Poet
i see
Misses PrXpert
Most of it is work
UNtitled Poet
mmm hmm so they say
Misses PrXpert
Go to my webiste
website
UNtitled Poet
ok
Misses PrXpert
I have a social networking package
I get paid to be on here...
I'm afraid of myself too BTW.
UNtitled Poet
i see
are you going to face your fears?
Misses PrXpert
I do everyday.
I'm a writer and poet as well.
UNtitled Poet
id love to hear/read something
Misses PrXpert
I also have a strong business sense as well which is how
i got into PR
UNtitled Poet
ahhh
Misses PrXpert
I have poetry, but I don't slam or anything
love to hear it tho
UNtitled Poet
why do people thing slam is so important
Misses PrXpert
I don't think it is...I just don't do it. You see I still
called myself a poet...lol
I grew up admiring Maya Angelou
UNtitled Poet
poetry has existed as the quintessential expression of
art and intelligence for over 5000 years and they started poetry slam in 1984
Misses PrXpert
lol
UNtitled Poet
All slammer call themselves poets
Misses PrXpert
That's an intelligent way to put it
UNtitled Poet
im not average I just pretend to be
Misses PrXpert
Like I said, I love maya so my poetry is in the same
category as the things she puts out.
I've performed
UNtitled Poet
where?
Misses PrXpert
Weddings, Funerals, you name it. lol
I just stepped away from performing as I got older.
I stopped when I was about 16
UNtitled Poet
ohh
how old are you now?
Misses PrXpert
28
I actually hosted a poetry show in Detroit last year
I turned it over to one of my poet friends and she
stopped doing it. I was too busy and it was every week.
I love poetry..
UNtitled Poet
what was the name of the show?
Misses PrXpert
BSM Presents: Open Mic Poetry at the Russell Bazaar. That
simple.
UNtitled Poet
Did you run it before or after Jah, because he passed it
to Soltreu
Misses PrXpert
Before
I passed it to Jah, but I know Soleteu
I started it
UNtitled Poet
Oh ok
Misses PrXpert
Never again...lol
UNtitled Poet
why?
Misses PrXpert
People in Detroit don't support things like that enough.
You got to Chicago, ATL, etc and it's a totally different
thing
I don't work with authors anymore period.
UNtitled Poet
wow
Misses PrXpert
what? lol I'm just being honest
Even though I write, my profession is a publicist
lots of publicists won't work with authors and we have
good reasons.
UNtitled Poet
like?
Misses PrXpert
self-published authors
because it is too hard to promote self published authors,
you can barely get their books in the stores
UNtitled Poet
what wrong with that. and if they are good it shouldn't
be a problem
Misses PrXpert
not that easy
self-published books can't be sent back if they don't
seel
sell
so bookstores stay away from them'
UNtitled Poet
ahh
Misses PrXpert
and everybody is a writer nowadays
UNtitled Poet
yeah
Misses PrXpert
so in order to determine whether or not a book will sell,
they would have to read the all.
and pary that it sells
pray
sorry, eating..lol
I literally went broke trying to work with them last year
UNtitled Poet
no one does that... but I don't see how that makes
dealing with an author bad... furthermore I didn't know PR and distribution
were the same thing
Misses PrXpert
Now i only works with IT companies and filmmakers
and other corporations
UNtitled Poet
maybe you just chose to work with the wrong authors and
in the wrong scope of what they do
Misses PrXpert
I tried them all
all genres
UNtitled Poet
i meant as indivduals not as a genre
Misses PrXpert
and my rates are more than they can afford based on book
sales
UNtitled Poet
but i digress
Misses PrXpert
yeah, it's more of a money thing more than personality or
mind-set. If you don't have it...u just don't have it
but my family still has to eat so...
UNtitled Poet
perhaps your rates or services don't directly address
their needs
Misses PrXpert
That's not it.
There are too many people out here selling books
that people aren't buying.
UNtitled Poet
oh ok
Misses PrXpert
People are being very careful with their money
and it an author doesn't get with kindle or e-books, it's
almost a waste of time
not because the book isn't good
but because of the times we live in
UNtitled Poet
or maybe people view things differently
maybe i view things differently
Misses PrXpert
newspapers are dying out too
UNtitled Poet
but oh well
Misses PrXpert
You have a right too
but these are the reasons that 95% of publists out here
won't work with an author unless they have a publishing deal
UNtitled Poet
which I think is stupid... but eh... this is again my
opinion
Misses PrXpert
I respect the authors and what they do...but I am running
a business and I have to make good decisions.
UNtitled Poet
doesn't sound like a very good decision
Misses PrXpert
It has been for me. I am better financially and happier.
Less stress
which is good for my family
#1
UNtitled Poet
oh ok
Misses PrXpert
I know you're a poet and I respect that. But anything a
publicist can do for you, you can do for yourself. Goood PR is expensive
because we put in a lot of work
and when you compare the cost to book sales...it's
smarter for the author as well.
UNtitled Poet
why are you so focused on book sales? or is that all you
know?
Misses PrXpert
No
A publicist doesn't sell books
we get you media exposure
UNtitled Poet
thats what you make it sound like
Misses PrXpert
which people don't pay for
no one is going to pay an author to interview them right?
UNtitled Poet
what do you mean people don't pay for media exposure if
they didn't wouldn't have a job
Misses PrXpert
so to have a publists is an uneeded expense unless you
are selling thousands of books
UNtitled Poet
umm ok
Misses PrXpert
People pay for expore by hiring a publicist
but a newspaper isn't going to pay for interviews
it's unethical
so i can't give you a return on your investment
the media exposure
however will help
but it's alot of work if you aren't already established
UNtitled Poet
hmm
Misses PrXpert
when you are
a publists helps you manage your interviews etc so that
you can focus on your craft.
writing
but we aren't managers
so we don't help sell books
You can say my theory is flawed but you haven't worked as
a publicist
UNtitled Poet
i always thought a publicist job was to increase the
exposure for their client. I learned something today
Misses PrXpert
it is
but we don't sell books
UNtitled Poet
you just implied it wasn't
and here we are back to the book thing
Misses PrXpert
we arrange interviews and get your name out there
UNtitled Poet
what is it with you and books?
Misses PrXpert
we're talking about authors right?
UNtitled Poet
im talking about anyone
Misses PrXpert
unless they are speakers...
UNtitled Poet
I run businesses... I know good business when I see it...
this doesn't make much sense
Misses PrXpert
right a publicist helps you get media exposure. I've said
that 5 times, what isn't clear?
we're also on a chat
UNtitled Poet
and from what I know of public speakers majority of them
are authors, or have had a book written about them
Misses PrXpert
exactly
UNtitled Poet
so then why not market yourself to that with authors
rather than dwell on what you know doesn't work
Misses PrXpert
It isn't smart for a self-published author to hire a
publist unless they have money set aside for that as an investment
otherwise they should do it themselves until it's more
affordable
Because of what the media is looking for
I think you're just offended because you write
UNtitled Poet
who said anything about being self published. Anyway
while I was amused with this circle we just went in... I have runs to make so
you enjoy your day.
Misses PrXpert
wow...
lol okay
UNtitled Poet
I'm not offended at all. I was trying to help you see the
flaw of your business model, and show you how to make some money. Anyway catch
ya later.
Misses PrXpert
I make more money not working with authors
I think I'm doing just fine
UNtitled Poet
yes you don't see it
I didn
did'nt think you would
Misses PrXpert
trying to insult people isn't good business either
turns people off
UNtitled Poet
i wasn't trying to insult you. I was just being blunt.
It's who I am. Ask around I have a track record for that. But it also comes
with a record of being dead right damn smart and overly talented (now im being
insulting )
Misses PrXpert
well good luck to you.
And after all that I was unfriended and blocked!!! HOW
RUDE
...I've experienced this
ReplyDeleteClassic circumstance of not sharing the same opinion instantly makes you an alien...
...A smart, intelligent, wiser alien, but most are content with simply being human anyway :-/
This lady is a mess, for a number of reasons.
ReplyDeleteShe said she turned it over to a friend "and SHE stopped doing it." But then said she handed it over to Jah who is male.
As for not working with self-published authors... She clearly needs reconsider. She makes these generalizations based on limited experiences.
She talks in circles... I wonder if she can hear herself, lol.